Legislature(2003 - 2004)

05/15/2003 07:53 AM Senate L&C

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          CSHB 195(L&C)am-STATE HEALTH INSURANCE PLAN                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  SEEKINS   announced  CSHB   195(L&C)am  to  be   up  for                                                               
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. HEATHER NOBREGA, staff  to Representative Rokeberg, explained                                                               
that CSHB  195(L&C)am deals  with two  distinct areas.  Section 1                                                               
attempts  to give  individual health  care insurance  seekers the                                                               
option of  providing a bare  bones insurance policy  that doesn't                                                               
include the  state mandates listed  in statute. This  is intended                                                               
to  be in  addition  to  the normal  individual  plan that  would                                                               
include  all the  mandates  that are  required.  The proposed  CS                                                               
includes clarifying language  on this issue on page 2,  lines 2 -                                                               
4,  that  the  bare  bones  coverage  is  "in  addition  to"  the                                                               
mandatory coverages listed in statute.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
The Division  of Insurance  requested the  second portion  of the                                                               
bill.  The federal  government has  adopted the  Trade Adjustment                                                               
Assistance Act,  which provides a  65% health care tax  credit on                                                               
an insurance  premium for  people, like  timber and  oil workers,                                                               
who  have lost  their jobs  due to  the effects  of international                                                               
trade acts.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Sections 2  through 9  make conforming  amendments to  the Alaska                                                               
Comprehensive  Health Insurance  Association (ACHIA)  statutes so                                                               
that those  individuals who  do qualify  under the  Federal Trade                                                               
Adjustment Assistance  Act can  actually get  65% of  their ACHIA                                                               
premiums paid by the federal government.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DAVIS arrived at 3:22 p.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR SEEKINS moved  to adopt SCS CSHB 195(L&C),  version U, as                                                               
the  working document.  There were  no objections  and it  was so                                                               
ordered.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR SEEKINS asked  Ms. Nobrega to explain the  numbers on the                                                               
handout, which she did briefly.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR SEEKINS asked  what the impetus was to  provide this kind                                                               
of policy.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS.  NOBREGA  replied  that this  was  Representative  Rokeberg's                                                               
idea. He  wanted to  help provide  cheaper health  care insurance                                                               
for people  who don't want all  the coverage but would  like some                                                               
form of health care insurance.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MICHELLE  CASSANO,  Executive  Director,  American  Diabetes                                                               
Association, wanted  to clarify  the mandate  in AS  06.42.390 is                                                               
for   coverage  of   diabetes  treatment   including  medication,                                                               
equipment and education. She indicated:                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     HB  195  will  eliminate  the  requirement  that  state                                                                    
     regulated  individual  health   insurance  plans  cover                                                                    
     diabetes   supplies,   equipment  and   self-management                                                                    
     education. It  will eliminate a similar  requirement to                                                                    
     many  other  health  benefits. The  business  community                                                                    
     claims   mandates-free   policies  provide   affordable                                                                    
     health  insurance  through [indisc.]  consumer  choice,                                                                    
     but,  in   fact,  they   only  provide   employers  and                                                                    
     consumers with  the choice of  a health  insurance plan                                                                    
     that does not cover basic, necessary services.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     HB  195  will allow  diabetes  coverage  to be  offered                                                                    
     rather  than required  in  individual health  insurance                                                                    
     plans.  [Indisc.]  option   coverage,  but  it  doesn't                                                                    
     work...                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
She said that  they wouldn't support HB 195 unless  section 1 was                                                               
eliminated.  Approximately   39,000  Alaskans  are   affected  by                                                               
diabetes.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR STEVENS  asked if  the changes in  the bill  would remove                                                               
the mandate that insurance  policies cover preventative treatment                                                               
of diabetes  and whether that  would let the  insurance companies                                                               
off the hook  for all of the debilitating aspects  of diabetes as                                                               
it progresses.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. CASSANO replied that it  is scientific fact that preventative                                                               
care and good control of  diabetes can limit complications in the                                                               
aggregate by 68% in both Type 1 and Type 2 diabetes.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS. LOIS HILDEBRAND, Volunteer, American Cancer Society, said:                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     This bill  sets up  a dangerous precedent  for Alaskans                                                                    
     for  not getting  life-saving  cancer screening  tests.                                                                    
     Furthermore,    it   contains    inconsistencies   that                                                                    
     undermine the  stated intent  of the  legislation. Over                                                                    
     the last  decade, state legislatures  have increasingly                                                                    
     become aware  of the importance of  requiring insurance                                                                    
     coverage  for  cancer  screening.  Early  detection  of                                                                    
     cancer is the key to survival....                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
She  said that  all attempts  made to  reduce required  insurance                                                               
coverage in Washington State failed.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. BILL MOORE, Manager, Legislative  Policy, [indisc.], said his                                                               
group likes legislation that responds  to consumer concerns about                                                               
rising costs of health insurance  premiums and offers a choice in                                                               
the health  insurance marketplace.  He stated,  "We think  HB 195                                                               
advances all of these principles."                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. JANEL WRIGHT,  Anchorage resident, said she  has had diabetes                                                               
for over 27 years  and urged the committee to not  pass HB 195 or                                                               
at least to eliminate section 1.  She pointed out, "Access to and                                                               
reimbursement   providing  supplies   and   equipment  and   self                                                               
management  education  is  cost  effective."  She  said  managing                                                               
diabetes is  expensive, but the  cost to treat  the complications                                                               
of unmanaged diabetes is even more expensive.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. LINDA HALL,  Director of the Division of  Insurance, said she                                                               
thought there  was a misunderstanding about  this particular bill                                                               
and the adopted CS.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     There is  no intention  on the part  of the  sponsor of                                                                    
     the bill,  which has  the support  of the  division, to                                                                    
     remove mandates  for coverage. This  was an  attempt to                                                                    
     make  an option  available should  anyone choose  to do                                                                    
     so,  requires a  very  clear disclosure  of the  lesser                                                                    
     coverage provided by this particular  option so that it                                                                    
     might  make a  small dent  in the  number of  uninsured                                                                    
     people. We have a  problem with health insurance costs;                                                                    
     we have a problem with health care costs....                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. HALL  said the CS  specifically maintains those  mandates for                                                               
individuals who  choose to buy  individual health  care policies.                                                               
This  does  not  affect  group   policies  or  employer  provided                                                               
policies at all. She explained:                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     The Division  of Insurance did  ask for the  balance of                                                                    
     this  bill to  be added.  There will  be federal  money                                                                    
     available  in August  for  individuals  whose jobs  are                                                                    
     replaced through various  international trade assistant                                                                    
     acts. This money is coming  from the federal government                                                                    
     and will  be administered  by the Department  of Labor.                                                                    
     Again, this  is a small  step in helping  alleviate our                                                                    
     uninsured population.  The estimate  right now  is that                                                                    
     there  probably would  have been  200 people  this year                                                                    
     affected by  this. The estimates  we were given  by the                                                                    
     Alaska Department of  Labor indicated up to  as many as                                                                    
     2,000  could have  been affected  in some  prior years.                                                                    
     We're very  much encouraging you  to pass this  bill so                                                                    
     that our  citizens will  be eligible  for this  care in                                                                    
     August when the money is available.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR BUNDE thanked  her and said they would hear  the bill again                                                               
and Ms.  Hall would be  available, but  he wanted to  take public                                                               
testimony with the remaining time.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. BETSY TURNER-BOGGREN, Ester  resident, asked the committee to                                                               
not support  HB 195 as  it is written.  Three years ago,  she and                                                               
her son, Max,  traveled to Juneau and testified in  front of this                                                               
committee  in  support of  HB  298  and  SB 276,  which  required                                                               
insurers in our state to  reimburse for costs related to diabetes                                                               
management. It became law and  had overwhelming support. She told                                                               
members, "HB 195 would not create  a new type of health insurance                                                               
policy. Instead, it would recreate  the old type of policies that                                                               
did not work well for the people of Alaska."                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  BUNDE  responded  that  testimony  from  the  Division  of                                                               
Insurance said  that this  bill does  not remove  any requirement                                                               
for coverage.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BOGGREN replied  that  she didn't  think  that the  language                                                               
stated that very clearly, especially in section 1, which says:                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
         A health care insurer may offer a health care                                                                          
      insurance plan issued to the individual market that                                                                       
     does not include health coverage required under...                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  BUNDE said  he  would get  further  clarification of  that                                                               
section.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS.  KARIN  BRAUN,  Nurse Midwife,  opposed  HB  195,  especially                                                               
section  1. She  was concerned  that if  the legislature  creates                                                               
this precedent for individuals, group insurance will follow.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CARLA  WILLIAMS,  Alaska Breast  Cancer  Advocacy  Partners,                                                               
opposed  HB  195   and  said  that  she   had  submitted  written                                                               
testimony.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CAMILLE SOLEIL,  Alaska Nurses  Association (ANA),  said the                                                               
ANA opposes section  1 of HB 195. The ANA's  concern is that this                                                               
type of insurance would discriminate against midwives.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  BUNDE apologized  for rushing  the testimony,  but members                                                               
were late  for another meeting.  He said  he would hold  the bill                                                               
for further work and testimony.                                                                                                 

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